Talk:Sublime (philosophy)

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Addison

<rant> I would just like to note that the famous Addison line "the alps fill the mind with an agreeable kind of horror" is systematically misquoted in various sources, notably the Dictionary of the History of Ideas http://etext.virginia.edu/cgi-local/DHI/dhi.cgi?id=dv4-44 which suggests it appears in the Spectator. Elsewhere it is referred to extremely vaguely. After several hours of searching, I finally pinned down this reference to another book (see reference on main page). I put this note here in the hope that no one else will have to suffer the same pain it put me through (I have to do this for a living!). In future, I urge people to check primary sources, or at least reliable secondary sources (with exact page numbers!) for quotations. </rant>

Hegelian problems

The section on Hegel has two misleading passages. The first misleading passage states that "oriental artists were more inclined towards the aesthetic and the sublime: they could engage god only through 'sublimated' means." Sublimation has nothing to do with the sublime. Sublimation, in this sense, means to make nobler or purer, that is, less naturalistically physical and more abstractly spiritual. The sublime, however, is the experience of fearful pleasure in the presence of immense space, time, or causality. The second misleading passage claims that a spectator experiences an overwhelming aesthetic sense of awe when viewing the disembodiment and formlessness of intricate detail or metrical patterns. Spectacles of awesome detail or geometrical patterns, however, have nothing to do with immensity and are therefore obviously not sublime.Lestrade (talk) 15:28, 13 November 2008 (UTC)Lestrade

Romanticism

Hello,

This articles nearly jumps from British 18th century to German late 19th and 20th. However, the idea of sublime is central in romantic thought, especially in France (Stendhal, Victor Hugo, Charles Baudelaire). It would be interesting to add a section about it - I stub'd it in the French version, with several important quotes that can be translated. Hope it helps, FredD (talk) 09:31, 24 February 2022 (UTC)